Petition to ban old men from writing books just because they don’t know how to use an iPhone
Petition to have the youth in this country to actually educate themselves instead of spitting out some bullshit they read on some shitty post on facebook that’s untrue, and continues to spread like wildfire.
In 2012, young adults have set the record of completing both high school and college and are on course to become the most educated generation in America history. Maybe you should follow the example of ‘the youth in this country’ and do the same.
And research suggests that all the “damn texting” we do is leading us to be more social and creating stronger bonds with more ppl so
Also websites like twitter, tumblr, and youtube are creating a generation of youth that understand social justice issues and exposing them to ideas they wouldn’t have been exposed to otherwise. Gosh, how terrible.
These damn kids today, with their education and social connection and effective use of technological tools and slightly more tolerance for people different than themselves. What is happening to this country!
I read this book last year for summer reading for my AP Language and Composition class. While I liked it a lot less than the other book of the same vein that we had to read (Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman), it did have its points. Now, I don’t know if any of the people who responded to this read the book or not. But if you didn’t, give the book a chance. And know that a lot of the points that Bauerline makes do not necessarily apply to you specifically. You have to take everything with a grain of salt.
I admit, many of the above comments make very good points. But that doesn’t mean condemn the book without even touching it (Again, I don’t know if any of the above commentators did read the book. If you did, disregard this). In my opinion, The Dumbest Generation was trying to educate people on some trends seen today. And while Bauerline is writing an argument made to convince his reader, when you read a book, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE AUTHOR! But at least take in and contemplate what the author is saying. LEARN from what is being argued. No, we don’t have to completely change everything and bring the country back into the 1960s, and you don’t have to change your lifestyle if you don’t want. But respect what the author proposes and THINK about his/her opinion. Just blatantly disregarding it as hogwash and waving their opinion away as ridiculous is a little silly in my mind. It wastes an opportunity to learn and make yourself a more knowledgeable and well rounded individual. It’s really important to respect the opinions and thoughts of others, as well as not take everything personally (which I know many people in my AP class did, so I am speaking from my experiences. I do not know about any of the above people who commented).
Granted, Bauerline was kinda dickish and rude in the book. I don’t deny that (which is why I enjoyed Postman’s book better). I don’t want to say don’t argue his points. One of the best things about free speech is that people have different opinions and can express them. But could we be a little less sarcastic and (seemingly) shortsighted?
If you’re starting off your commentary by saying that you like Postman, I’m pretty much going to disregard anything else you have to say about that genre of writing.
Signed, your bitchy neighborhood grad student, who successfully wrote an entire paper that basically said Postman should go fuck himself (and it got an A so there)
[PS I do get what you’re trying for, and I did read your post, but every generation thinks the generation that are teens and young adults when they’re starting to head into late middle age are the worst and stupid and why can’t they just respect their elders YOU DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN and I’m just fucking sick of it. You just got the blast because you invoked Postman. Say his name three times and angry mass comm students appear and bitch at you. And before you ask, no, I’m over thirty. With a liberal arts bachelor’s and a comm master’s, and no asshole it didn’t teach me how to say “do you want fries with that”, I manage multimillion-dollar accounts and do corporate training. So yeah some more things I’m fucking sick of hearing.]
Okay! I think you are right about how each generation does tend to hate the teens and young adults of the next, and that does get tiring. That’s fine.
I just think that it’s good to look at the other argument, and respect it and learn from it. You can disagree with and dislike it as much as you want, I don’t give a damn XD I just think that being open to other opinions is a good thing.
[PS: Do people really hate Postman that much XD? I mean, yeah, lots of kids in my class didn’t LIKE Postman, but a few thought that he had some valid points. My teacher just really liked him, so we read a bunch of his stuff XD]
hello new friend! I do think you’re absolutely right in the general sense: we all can use practice in seeing the other side of things. I just have a bit of you-damn-kids-outrage fatigue these days :) I appreciate you not taking my venting personally - your point is well-reasoned and did not in itself deserve the rant that popped out… I’ve just been in thesis-revision hell recently and SO MUCH WORDS COMING OUT.
My class - 10 of us - all disliked Postman. My personal view, and I know some of the others agreed with me, is that he started out with an axe to grind and just looked for things that could be twisted to prove it, and ignored anything that could counter his argument. It wasn’t really an actual argument in the logic sense, more of an extended rant. “Oh no one these days would come out to see an all-day political speaking event” oh yeah? tell that to me and the other thousands of people who stood in 0 degree weather for hours in Springfield, IL in January 2008. [We were rewarded with some awesome oratorical skills, and Rod Blagojevich’s purple suit, which is never a bad thing.] “Oh television can’t actually teach kids anything except that everything in life should be entertaining” so the statistics about how kids who watch Sesame Street do better in early school skills than kids that don’t, don’t count?
I’m into dystopian fiction - my thesis involves “Brave New World” among other things, and I do cite Postman - but I think Postman goes too far and often misses the point. He asks good questions, but he ignores any answers to those questions that don’t fit his narrative. Yeah, nonstop entertainment culture probably isn’t healthy, but I don’t believe that’s what we have now or what we’re heading for. TV teaches kids, shows science and history, and inspires us, in addition to rotting our brains with overly-manufactured reality shows. The internet gave us 4chan, but it also revived long-form journalism and has given us the ability to be more informed and more connected outside of our physical locations and families than ever before. Kids are learning, earlier, and more thoroughly, how to find and evaluate information, thanks to things like Snopes. I’m just inclined to think Postman’s straight-up dismissal is too simple, and too curmudgeonly, to be an accurate view of society.
I know that’s a wall of text, so the TL:DR for anyone else out there: Postman likes to bitch about everything and it makes me wish he weren’t dead so I could go play loudly and obnoxiously on his lawn.